Now, here is a letter that would DEFINITELY attract my attention:
Excellent email
Dear Prof. Das,
I am applying to KSU (amongst other places) for a Ph.D., and I am very interested in your research areas. I would like to explore the possibility of doing my research with you, with financial support.
One possible area that would interest me a lot is in applying Tikhonov
regularization to your problem in computational neuroscience, since I
understand that neural data can be very noisy, and yet sparse.
Alternately, I am also interested in applying evolutionary algorithms toyour genetic neural network parameter estimation. One of my other interests in in parallel processing. Are you considering parallel implementations for any of your optimization/estimation algorithms? Considering that the projects that you list in your web site would probably be very computationally intensive, that may be a worthwhile strategy to pursue.
I presented a paper entitled "Hybrid Gradient Descent Based Training ofProbabilistic Recurrent Networks" in the International Conference on Neural Networks and Image Processing, Bangalore, last year. It is a reviewed publication. If have attached a copy of the article in pdf format.
If you have available funds, and are interested in my application please let me know soon.
XYZ
My comments: This is a straightforward letter from someone with a genuine interest in my area . He is an exceptional candidate. He has evinced a keen desire to learn, and already has considerable mastery over my area of research . If I have any funding available, I would definitely try my very BEST to get this person . This person may have an MS degree, while many applicants have only a BS degree.
2007年10月15日 星期一
2007年10月2日 星期二
All grad schools deadline
Deadline and requirement
Harvard
Master of Architectural Design Studies
January 18, 2008
MIT
Master of Science in Architecture Studies (SMArchS)
December 15
MS. Media arts and science
December 15 (applications must bem submittedonline)
Tests required:
TOEFL IBT 100
1) Online applications are required.
2) Applicants must specify at least one but not more than three faculty with whom they are applying to work — list these faculty in order of preference at the opening of the statement of objectives. A list of faculty who are admitting students
CMU
MS. architecture
February 1
MS. CS
on-application link
NYU ITP
January 8th
Gatech
January 15
• Georgiat Tech Graduate Admissions On-line Application
• Three Letters of Recommendation
• Examples of previous design work -if required by selected area of specialization
• Examples of previous research and written work -if required by selected area of specialization
• Official transcripts from all previously attended institutions of higher learning
• Statement of Personal and Professional Goals
• Personal Biography Form
• Scores of Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) for non-U.S. residents/citizens whose native tongue is other than English
• Graduate Record Examination (GRE) score
• Financial Statement (for non-U.S. residents/citizens)
Boston
MA. CS
January 1
Harvard
Master of Architectural Design Studies
January 18, 2008
MIT
Master of Science in Architecture Studies (SMArchS)
December 15
- SOP-In the statement of objectives, applicants should indicate clearly which SMArchS area of study they seek to enter and why. Statements should clearly outline the applicant's qualifications for research in that area.
- TOEFL 100 Institution Code: 3514 Department Code: 12
- Portfolio
MS. Media arts and science
December 15 (applications must bem submittedonline)
Tests required:
TOEFL IBT 100
- Send supporting materials to: MAS, Room E15-401
1) Online applications are required.
2) Applicants must specify at least one but not more than three faculty with whom they are applying to work — list these faculty in order of preference at the opening of the statement of objectives. A list of faculty who are admitting students
CMU
MS. architecture
February 1
- A non-refundable application fee of US$75
- Official transcripts
- Statement of purpose
On a separate sheet of paper type or print a one- or two-pages concise statement that includes the following information:
1. A concise statement of your primary educational and research interests.
2. An outline of your research experience and a list of any publications.
3. A description of your background in architecture and allied fields that is particularly relevant to your objectives. Include any relevant work experience and any academic honors. - GRE - Institution code for the GRE: 2074 Department code for the GRE: 4401
- TOEFL IBT-100 Institution code for the TOEFL: 2074 Department code for the TOEFL: 12
- 3 Letters of Recommendation- Do NOT include letters of recommendation in the package you are mailing to the School of Architecture. Download .PDF
- Financial Aid Request Form Download .PDF
MS. CS
on-application link
NYU ITP
January 8th
- a completed application form
- personal statement, current resume
- 2 letters of recommendations
- official transcripts
- the application fee
- an optional creative portfolio.
- TOEFL
*everything can now be submitted online except transcripts, portfolios and TOEFL scores.
Gatech
January 15
• Georgiat Tech Graduate Admissions On-line Application
• Three Letters of Recommendation
• Examples of previous design work -if required by selected area of specialization
• Examples of previous research and written work -if required by selected area of specialization
• Official transcripts from all previously attended institutions of higher learning
• Statement of Personal and Professional Goals
• Personal Biography Form
• Scores of Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) for non-U.S. residents/citizens whose native tongue is other than English
• Graduate Record Examination (GRE) score
• Financial Statement (for non-U.S. residents/citizens)
Boston
MA. CS
January 1
- General test required (no specific minimum score required)
- TOEFL IBT-79
- full on-line registration link
2007年9月21日 星期五
寫resume 用的active words
copying from:http://www.10minuteresume.com/
A
achieved acquired adapted addressed administered analyzed anticipated assembled assisted audited
B
budgeted
C
calculated centralized changed collaborated composed condensed conducted constructed contracted converted
coordinated created cultivated
D
demonstrated designed developed devised discovered doubled drafted
E
edited eliminated enforced established evaluated expanded explained
F
forecasted formed founded
G
generated guided
H
hired
I
implemented improved increased informed insured interpreted interviewed
L
launched
M
maintained managed marketed minimized motivated
N
negotiated
O
obtained operated organized originated oversaw
P
performed planned prevented produced promoted provided publicized published
R
recruited reorganized reported researched resolved
reviewed
S
selected separated setup simplified solved staffed supervised surveyed
T
taught tested trained
U
utilized
柏克萊大學Career Center關於讀書計畫的一篇訪談
一篇柏克萊大學Career Center的專題訪問,文中訪問了三所名校(NYU, HAR
VARD,YALE)的admissions officials他們對於good statement of purpose(好的讀書
計畫)的看法,在這裡跟大家分享一下啦!
文章提到其實他們都很重視寫作風格與清晰度。此外
,當然也要清楚說明一下你的研究主題,還有為什麼人家的研究所適合你(focus and fit
)。而我覺得重點在於這幾所學校老師提出他們心目中亮紅燈的讀書計畫,也就是一些讓
他們想一邊叫oh my god一邊撞牆覺得自己浪費時間的東西:
1.沒有條理的讀書計畫
2.看起來是為別所學校寫的讀書計畫(硬投其他學校碰運氣來申請一下的那種)
3.文法與詞句謬誤百出、說話者還搞不清楚自己申請的動機與目標
4.講太多與未來研究無關的個人經歷(如童年回憶)、學生學習歷程中出現gap(斷層...
呃,我想這裡指的是,如果你的學經歷有轉折處)卻沒交代清楚、或者是對要申請的研究
所與環境沒有基本的瞭解。
5.過份想要幽默。
6.若申請phd則不應花太多篇幅陳述個人課外活動經驗,除非那些跟未來研究有直接相關
。
上面提到的訪問內容:
http://career.berkeley.edu/Article/041112b-so.stm
http://career.berkeley.edu/Article/041119b-so.stm
看了新生的statements of purpose 的感想
一位曾經幫學校看過SOP與其他文件的學生的感想-轉自椰林留學板
各位正在申請學校的同好們:
先祝大家順利, 這兩天我因為幫系上安排新生來訪的事, 手上就有了今年收
進來的新生的所有資料(除了推薦信之外), 我也很火系上叫我看新生的東西,
因為花了我很多時間, 可是看一下還蠻好玩的, 寫一些心得給大家參考,
我是唸文科的, 所以可是不是適用所有學科
1.GRE,
我看收進來的, 大半verbal 都是600 左右, 很少5字頭的, 有4字頭的我就在想他到底
有什麼地方特別好嗎? 原來是來自一個跟我們一樣很理論的系, 也許跟我們系主任有
淵源吧, 分析好像都600 左右, 數學完全不行, 有400多的也有600 多, 沒看到幾個700
的, 看來當初我數學考720 還算高分:-)
以前我申請時, 有跟系上的director 聯絡, 他跟我說, verbal 要700 以上才行,
我看一下, 跟本沒有人有700, 我就開玩笑的說, "Ken lied to me." 他們跟我說,
現在ETS 的腐敗也不是新聞了, standard tests 不像以前那麼重要了
2. statement of purpose
我看到的是收進來的嘛, 沒看到沒收的, 沒法做比較, 不過我看寫得好的都是這樣,
不要太多修詞, 因為看的人看那麼多, 會覺得很沒重點, 很煩, 而且覺得沒什麼料,
才會這樣寫
有趣的經驗, 比如跟誰做過什麼東西, 寫過什麼東西, 這個多寫一點, 會覺得
這個人是有點sense 知道我們系上是在做什麼的
以後要做什麼東西, 很多人都很模糊, 一看就知道有沒有唸過graduate school,
有人是under直接申請的, 有人是master, 我們系如果under 直接來的, 幾乎都是
名校, 而且看起來under唸的東西要很focused 在我們系的走向才行,
master 之後才來的, 要做的東西最好是系上一看就有老師會有很大的興趣的,
不是跟老師的東西重複, 而是把比如說兩三個老師的東西融合,
那就會覺得, 這個人來應該會跟這些人做, 做出來的又跟他們不完全一樣, 是新的,
還有, 列出老師的名字時, 真的要做一些網路上的research, 看怹們在開什麼課,
不然有人列一些1名字, 可是這些人的東西實在不怎麼合得起來, 就會覺得這個人
只是列一些1有名的人1, 他根本不清楚他來要做什麼, 更重要的是, 他來了就會
發現此路不通, 與其他來了才1發現他要做的東西不對, 不如先拒絕他來1吧
2007年9月20日 星期四
一個教授主頁上說陶瓷信的注意事項
Points to keep in mind before sending an e-mail
I get a LOT of e-mail from prospective graduate students. It is nice that so many people are interested in studying here. What follows is a list of things to consider BEFORE sending an e-mail to me (or anyone else, for that matter).
Keep in mind the following points:
The person you are e-mailing is probably very busy. Even if I spend an hour a day, every day, reading/answering e-mail, there still is not enough time to writea thoughtful response to each one. If you keep your e-mail short and to the point, you are more likely you receive a response.
Why are you writing? What do you hope to get in a reply? The recipient should not have to guess.
Do not use slang and abbreviations. "How r u?" may be appropriate for chat-rooms, but not if you want to be taken seriously.
Please use the Web to answer your questions, if possible.
Get the recipient's name right! I've had all kinds of variations on my name usedby people who I don't know. People have mis-spelled my name, or confused my first and last names.
If you really want me to answer your question, address the e-mail to me. If I see that your e-mail is addressed to "Dear professor," it sounds to me like you'vee-mailed everyone in my department. Why should I have to answer an e-mail thatyou've probably received a response to already?
Yes, I consider it rude when I receive e-mail that was sent to everyone in the department. We do talk to other faculty members! One of the first times I got ane-mail, I discussed it with another faculty member, only to find out that he received the same e-mail. The e-mail sender said to both of us, "I am interested specifically in your research". That cannot possibly be true, since we had completely different research areas.
Do not include your resume as a .doc attachment. If you send me an attachment, Ihave to go through extra steps to read it. It also tells me that you assume that I'm on a PC with Microsoft Windows, as if this is the only type of OS. I run Linux on my PC. It is much easier just to delete the e-mail.
Do not say you are interested in my research, then go on to say that you want towork on my operating systems (or algorithms, or databases) project. My researchis in computer architecture, VLSI, and DSP. This tells me that you either do not know what I do, or do not understand it.
Get the person's title correct. Some teachers at a university go by "Professor",some by "Dr.", and some by "Mr.", "Mrs." or "Ms." If you get it wrong, the person will assume that you don't know the difference between the titles, or that you don't care. He or she may even be offended. By the way, "doctor" is the Latinword for "teacher". It is a term of respect given to people who have completed adoctorate degree, and one of the few perks of spending 8+ years in college!
Do not assume that I have funding to hire a graduate assistant. Sometimes I do,sometimes I don't.
Some people try to make a good impression by touting their skills in webpage design, using word-processing software, or programming. I assume that everyone applying for a CS graduate program is already proficient in these things. Actually,I assume that any second-year undergraduate student is proficient with these things. If you are bragging about these skills, it gives me the impression that youdon't know what research is all about.
Above all, if you are sending an e-mail to faculty member you don't know, be sure it is professional, short, and specific (and that it is really necessary). I think all faculty members are nice people who want to be helpful, but who are also very pressed for time.
Ultimately, acceptance into graduate school is done by people examining your file. I have NEVER heard of someone being accepted into a program because of an e-mail that he/she sent. Computer Science departments like mine are blessed with many, many, good applicants every semester. We can only handle so many students ata time. If you apply, but do not get in, remember that not every deserving student is accepted. Keep a positive attitude.
I get a LOT of e-mail from prospective graduate students. It is nice that so many people are interested in studying here. What follows is a list of things to consider BEFORE sending an e-mail to me (or anyone else, for that matter).
Keep in mind the following points:
The person you are e-mailing is probably very busy. Even if I spend an hour a day, every day, reading/answering e-mail, there still is not enough time to writea thoughtful response to each one. If you keep your e-mail short and to the point, you are more likely you receive a response.
Why are you writing? What do you hope to get in a reply? The recipient should not have to guess.
Do not use slang and abbreviations. "How r u?" may be appropriate for chat-rooms, but not if you want to be taken seriously.
Please use the Web to answer your questions, if possible.
Get the recipient's name right! I've had all kinds of variations on my name usedby people who I don't know. People have mis-spelled my name, or confused my first and last names.
If you really want me to answer your question, address the e-mail to me. If I see that your e-mail is addressed to "Dear professor," it sounds to me like you'vee-mailed everyone in my department. Why should I have to answer an e-mail thatyou've probably received a response to already?
Yes, I consider it rude when I receive e-mail that was sent to everyone in the department. We do talk to other faculty members! One of the first times I got ane-mail, I discussed it with another faculty member, only to find out that he received the same e-mail. The e-mail sender said to both of us, "I am interested specifically in your research". That cannot possibly be true, since we had completely different research areas.
Do not include your resume as a .doc attachment. If you send me an attachment, Ihave to go through extra steps to read it. It also tells me that you assume that I'm on a PC with Microsoft Windows, as if this is the only type of OS. I run Linux on my PC. It is much easier just to delete the e-mail.
Do not say you are interested in my research, then go on to say that you want towork on my operating systems (or algorithms, or databases) project. My researchis in computer architecture, VLSI, and DSP. This tells me that you either do not know what I do, or do not understand it.
Get the person's title correct. Some teachers at a university go by "Professor",some by "Dr.", and some by "Mr.", "Mrs." or "Ms." If you get it wrong, the person will assume that you don't know the difference between the titles, or that you don't care. He or she may even be offended. By the way, "doctor" is the Latinword for "teacher". It is a term of respect given to people who have completed adoctorate degree, and one of the few perks of spending 8+ years in college!
Do not assume that I have funding to hire a graduate assistant. Sometimes I do,sometimes I don't.
Some people try to make a good impression by touting their skills in webpage design, using word-processing software, or programming. I assume that everyone applying for a CS graduate program is already proficient in these things. Actually,I assume that any second-year undergraduate student is proficient with these things. If you are bragging about these skills, it gives me the impression that youdon't know what research is all about.
Above all, if you are sending an e-mail to faculty member you don't know, be sure it is professional, short, and specific (and that it is really necessary). I think all faculty members are nice people who want to be helpful, but who are also very pressed for time.
Ultimately, acceptance into graduate school is done by people examining your file. I have NEVER heard of someone being accepted into a program because of an e-mail that he/she sent. Computer Science departments like mine are blessed with many, many, good applicants every semester. We can only handle so many students ata time. If you apply, but do not get in, remember that not every deserving student is accepted. Keep a positive attitude.
一個美國導師對套磁的建議和對申請者的素質要求
Steven M. LaValle, Department of Computer Science,University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) 的Assistant Professor.
在其網頁上,對Prospective Graduate Students提出了一些建議,內容涉及到學生如何與未來導師聯繫(套磁),以及他對申請者的素質要求等。
http://msl.cs.uiuc.edu/~lavalle/message.html
A Message for Prospective Graduate Students
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
This message is intended primarily for students who are applying to graduate school, or are starting graduate school, and are considering working in my research group. For students who are already here, you can sign up for an advanced course or reading group that I am organizing. Other possibilities are even dropping by and talking with me, or sending e-mail to set up a visit. First, however, please read this message, especially before trying to visit.
Thanks for your interest: First of all, I would like to thank you for taking the time to look at my web pages. I appreciate your interest in my research and in the activities of our group. Due to increasing internet connectivity and a large interest in my research area, I receive an overwhelming number of e-mail messages from prospective students. Unfortunately, there are too many messages for me to give a response to each one. I regret that I cannot reply to messages that are so important to the people who send them. For this reason, I have decided to write this message to help give some useful information to you.
Learn about what we do: If you believe that my research area might potentially be interesting to you, please look carefully at my web pages to learn about our research. You might even want to try downloading some of our papers (if you are unable, please let me know). In general, I am more likely to reply to a student who has taken the time to get some idea of what my research involves, especially if they can explain why they would be well-suited to make contributions in our research group.
No "openings" in the usual sense: Many students appear to be send a form letter to a large number of faculty without a much mention of any research activities that are particular to a research group. In this case, I usually discard the message. Even if the message is personalized, many seem to send resume-style information in hopes that my research group has "openings" to fill in the sense of a typical job. For some research groups, this might be true; however, I usally do not operate this way. I usually do not offer funding directly to students before I have been able to get to know them. Thus, it is highly unlikely (although it happens once in a while to an exceptional student) that I would offer a research assistantship before getting to know a student well. I prefer that students take a course or two from me, and that they have a chance to spend some time here. After a semester or two, they can refine their interests and determine whether my research area would be most exciting to them. I could also have the opportunity to determine whether we are a suitable match in terms of technical background, motivation, personality, etc.
GREs are worthless: With regard to sending resume-style information, it is useless to report GRE scores to me; they are not a factor in any of my decisions (general motivation for this can be found by reading The Mismeasure of Man, by Stephen Jay Gould). I am less likely to respond to a message that contains GRE scores.
My goals for students: I am very excited about the possibilty of working with exceptional M.S./Ph.D. students. I intend to give strong personal guidance that will maximize their chances of building a rewarding and enjoyable career in research. Important goals that I have for students are: 1) the identification of fundamental research problems by developing a thorough understanding of current literature; 2) the development of a strong technical background that enables the proposal of independent and innovative solutions to challenging problems; 3) the presentation and publication of research in the most prestigious journals and conferences; 4) the development of personal communication and presentation skills that are needed to maximize visibility in the research community, and increase chances of future success. If you find this emphasis and my research area appealing, I believe our group could provide you with a vibrant and exciting educational experience.
How to possibly squeeze in: Admissions in the Dept. of Computer Science are based on merit, and teaching assistantships or fellowships are usually awarded to the admitted students. This is one of the best ways to come to graduate school, and then spend time trying to find the right research group. At present, my research group is pretty much full; however, I am sometimes willing to make an exception. The ordinary path into my group is to become a graduate student here and then take an upper-level course from me. If there is strong mutual interest between me and a student, chances are good she or he can start working in my group.
In any case, good luck with your prospective graduate studies.
Best wishes,
Steve LaValle
在其網頁上,對Prospective Graduate Students提出了一些建議,內容涉及到學生如何與未來導師聯繫(套磁),以及他對申請者的素質要求等。
http://msl.cs.uiuc.edu/~lavalle/message.html
A Message for Prospective Graduate Students
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
This message is intended primarily for students who are applying to graduate school, or are starting graduate school, and are considering working in my research group. For students who are already here, you can sign up for an advanced course or reading group that I am organizing. Other possibilities are even dropping by and talking with me, or sending e-mail to set up a visit. First, however, please read this message, especially before trying to visit.
Thanks for your interest: First of all, I would like to thank you for taking the time to look at my web pages. I appreciate your interest in my research and in the activities of our group. Due to increasing internet connectivity and a large interest in my research area, I receive an overwhelming number of e-mail messages from prospective students. Unfortunately, there are too many messages for me to give a response to each one. I regret that I cannot reply to messages that are so important to the people who send them. For this reason, I have decided to write this message to help give some useful information to you.
Learn about what we do: If you believe that my research area might potentially be interesting to you, please look carefully at my web pages to learn about our research. You might even want to try downloading some of our papers (if you are unable, please let me know). In general, I am more likely to reply to a student who has taken the time to get some idea of what my research involves, especially if they can explain why they would be well-suited to make contributions in our research group.
No "openings" in the usual sense: Many students appear to be send a form letter to a large number of faculty without a much mention of any research activities that are particular to a research group. In this case, I usually discard the message. Even if the message is personalized, many seem to send resume-style information in hopes that my research group has "openings" to fill in the sense of a typical job. For some research groups, this might be true; however, I usally do not operate this way. I usually do not offer funding directly to students before I have been able to get to know them. Thus, it is highly unlikely (although it happens once in a while to an exceptional student) that I would offer a research assistantship before getting to know a student well. I prefer that students take a course or two from me, and that they have a chance to spend some time here. After a semester or two, they can refine their interests and determine whether my research area would be most exciting to them. I could also have the opportunity to determine whether we are a suitable match in terms of technical background, motivation, personality, etc.
GREs are worthless: With regard to sending resume-style information, it is useless to report GRE scores to me; they are not a factor in any of my decisions (general motivation for this can be found by reading The Mismeasure of Man, by Stephen Jay Gould). I am less likely to respond to a message that contains GRE scores.
My goals for students: I am very excited about the possibilty of working with exceptional M.S./Ph.D. students. I intend to give strong personal guidance that will maximize their chances of building a rewarding and enjoyable career in research. Important goals that I have for students are: 1) the identification of fundamental research problems by developing a thorough understanding of current literature; 2) the development of a strong technical background that enables the proposal of independent and innovative solutions to challenging problems; 3) the presentation and publication of research in the most prestigious journals and conferences; 4) the development of personal communication and presentation skills that are needed to maximize visibility in the research community, and increase chances of future success. If you find this emphasis and my research area appealing, I believe our group could provide you with a vibrant and exciting educational experience.
How to possibly squeeze in: Admissions in the Dept. of Computer Science are based on merit, and teaching assistantships or fellowships are usually awarded to the admitted students. This is one of the best ways to come to graduate school, and then spend time trying to find the right research group. At present, my research group is pretty much full; however, I am sometimes willing to make an exception. The ordinary path into my group is to become a graduate student here and then take an upper-level course from me. If there is strong mutual interest between me and a student, chances are good she or he can start working in my group.
In any case, good luck with your prospective graduate studies.
Best wishes,
Steve LaValle
關於教授招學生—國外留學生經驗與想法 part5
最近有很多討論關於拿到course option的ad,究竟值不值得來加拿大讀的問題,也有人問起究竟course轉thesis有沒有可能,我在這裡可以給大家講一個例子,這個男生是我 在某一門課上認識的同學,是一個新移民,本科畢業於國內很一般的學院,畢業時間大於7年,沒有轉過行,有一定的工作經驗。
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他是作為independent student被學校錄取的,其實有相當多的移民最初都是這樣入學的,即申請條件並未達到學校的要求,所以要補休一些大學本科的高級專業課程,如果GPA 在B以上,就可以正式入Master Program,而且先前選修的學分也可以算入Master必修的學分。對於這個男生來說,他之所以不能直接入學,是因為他畢業時間太長,而他在學校讀的 專業課的課程設置與加拿大這個專業的課程設置有太大出入,所以學校認為他必須重新補上某些重要的課程,成績合格,才可以被批准入Master Program.
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他Fall Term的成績不錯,Winter Term又選了兩門課,感覺也不錯,入Program是肯定沒有問題的,但是他的目標是能夠找到Supervisor從而轉為Thesis option的學生,因此只要聽到有教授在課上說要招學生,他就會拿著簡歷去和教授談。: l7 l& \$ |: Q* T8 s
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在我們系,有一個非常牛的program,要從國內申請進去幾乎是沒有可能的,這個男生對這個項目非常感興趣,於是就找我要這個教授上課用的課本和講義 (因為我曾經上過這個教授的課,而這門課講的剛好是與那個新項目相關的技術)。他仔仔細細地回家看了一個星期,之後去找教授談。教授一看他雖然沒有上過相 關的課程,但是卻對項目比較清楚,而且還表現出了濃厚的興趣,就說如果你能找到另外一個supervisor,我就可以給你作co- supervisor。
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於是這個男生又去找另外一個今年要招學生的教授,那個教授比較年輕,Waterloo CS本科,在MIT讀的Master和Ph.D,實驗室裡的項目都是最新的項目,而且有很多很新的idea,據我所知,目前在他手底下幹活的Ph.D有 3、4個中國人,背景不清楚,但是可以肯定的是,他去年只從中國國內招收了一個學生,是清華畢業的,其他幾個學生都是從伊朗招的。
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& y9 o" E u: Q, }+ C6 q) H這個男生同 樣表明了他的強烈願望,於是教授給他機會在他的實驗室裡作項目,3個月以後看進展,如果滿意就可以收他作學生。這個男生5月初才可以正式入Master Program,但是現在導師的事基本上就已經敲定了。我和他周圍的朋友都認為這是個很好的機會,努力幹3個月,不會的就玩命兒學,到時候出活兒絕對沒有 問題。
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這就是他從course option的independent student轉為兩個牛教授的thesis option的學生的過程,希望有這方面疑問的gter可以看一看。雖然也許他只是一個特例,但特例也是可以說明問題的。至少對於那些選擇拒絕 course option的ad的gter永遠不可能有這樣一個機會去和導師談,也永遠沒有可能進這樣的實驗室。
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他是作為independent student被學校錄取的,其實有相當多的移民最初都是這樣入學的,即申請條件並未達到學校的要求,所以要補休一些大學本科的高級專業課程,如果GPA 在B以上,就可以正式入Master Program,而且先前選修的學分也可以算入Master必修的學分。對於這個男生來說,他之所以不能直接入學,是因為他畢業時間太長,而他在學校讀的 專業課的課程設置與加拿大這個專業的課程設置有太大出入,所以學校認為他必須重新補上某些重要的課程,成績合格,才可以被批准入Master Program.
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他Fall Term的成績不錯,Winter Term又選了兩門課,感覺也不錯,入Program是肯定沒有問題的,但是他的目標是能夠找到Supervisor從而轉為Thesis option的學生,因此只要聽到有教授在課上說要招學生,他就會拿著簡歷去和教授談。: l7 l& \$ |: Q* T8 s
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在我們系,有一個非常牛的program,要從國內申請進去幾乎是沒有可能的,這個男生對這個項目非常感興趣,於是就找我要這個教授上課用的課本和講義 (因為我曾經上過這個教授的課,而這門課講的剛好是與那個新項目相關的技術)。他仔仔細細地回家看了一個星期,之後去找教授談。教授一看他雖然沒有上過相 關的課程,但是卻對項目比較清楚,而且還表現出了濃厚的興趣,就說如果你能找到另外一個supervisor,我就可以給你作co- supervisor。
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於是這個男生又去找另外一個今年要招學生的教授,那個教授比較年輕,Waterloo CS本科,在MIT讀的Master和Ph.D,實驗室裡的項目都是最新的項目,而且有很多很新的idea,據我所知,目前在他手底下幹活的Ph.D有 3、4個中國人,背景不清楚,但是可以肯定的是,他去年只從中國國內招收了一個學生,是清華畢業的,其他幾個學生都是從伊朗招的。
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& y9 o" E u: Q, }+ C6 q) H這個男生同 樣表明了他的強烈願望,於是教授給他機會在他的實驗室裡作項目,3個月以後看進展,如果滿意就可以收他作學生。這個男生5月初才可以正式入Master Program,但是現在導師的事基本上就已經敲定了。我和他周圍的朋友都認為這是個很好的機會,努力幹3個月,不會的就玩命兒學,到時候出活兒絕對沒有 問題。
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這就是他從course option的independent student轉為兩個牛教授的thesis option的學生的過程,希望有這方面疑問的gter可以看一看。雖然也許他只是一個特例,但特例也是可以說明問題的。至少對於那些選擇拒絕 course option的ad的gter永遠不可能有這樣一個機會去和導師談,也永遠沒有可能進這樣的實驗室。
關於教授招學生—國外留學生經驗與想法 part4
No4.來自於一個visiting speaker/ ^9 [& Y' b& e
d1 y+ Y r2 t8 j. a; [ 這個老師是加拿大排名前三的學校的終身教授,現在很牛,請他開會都要提前預約,否則日程就都滿了,有nature的文章。現在的實驗室上上下下加一起,20多人呢8 A/ u( q4 }/ [2 h) ~
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他今年收了一個中國學生,國內2流學校(我認為的),托夫607,作文5.0,gre1900,本科成績大概85吧,本科期間參加了科研小組(可能是這個 詞),3年級的時候作為交訪學生在日本呆了半年(日本的這個學校排名很好)。所以有一封日本教授的推薦信,評價是思維非常活躍,見解獨到,但是有時候感覺 基礎知識有些不紮實,但是很有潛力。
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/ r( L( u2 v' B$ _& u這個老師和我們座談的時候說,他對這個學生感興趣是因為,他日本教授的推薦信,尤其是日本教授的用詞,意思是雖然還有很多不足,但是個很有潛力而且願意付出工夫的學生。9 O# O7 I. \6 _) j3 d E# e$ a1 U2 Z
這個老師說,他不在乎他的學生是否成績顯赫,是否是中國名校畢業,因為他認為中國的教育水平相比於國際還是有差距的,他希望的學生是有良好思維習慣的,而且肯吃苦。因為他說,搞科研,有時候需要吃苦和活躍。# P+ u1 _: g4 p% J" X( B1 L; Z: l6 m
" |! c: v8 Z& F( B) A之後這個老師與這個學生進行了通信,雖然他感覺到一些不足,但是總體來說,他還比較滿意,所以他最後同意接受了他,而且願意付他的學費和生活費) ], g5 c [. J6 M% j7 z
這個老師對我們說,他覺得不足的地方時,當他和這個中國學生通信的時候,他明顯的感覺到,這個中國學生的通信是使用的英語沒有他的學習計劃之類的表現得那 麼好。不過因為這個老師以前代過一些中國學生,所以他表示理解,他知道中國學生的學習計劃和某些中國教授寫的推薦信很多都是一個樣本寫出來的,經過特別的 推敲,所以表現得比較好;但經常的通信,他們無法每封信都仔細的推敲,所以就體現出了真實的英語水平。, ~3 ^' `' W4 e6 v2 m2 R
但這個老師說,他不在乎英語水平究竟有多差或者多好,因為他根本不相信英語成績,因為他認為即使是中國英語學院畢業的學生,出了國英語一樣聽不懂。但他想看的是潛力。/ ?4 V4 C( [2 i8 M) ^
% J% k, D, I* U3 j7 c他和這個學生通信了將近半年,幾乎每星期一封信,他自己說,像父母和孩子的通信。& B' o+ C @4 Y% s/ D
在這半年裡,他發現中國學生的英語明顯在進步
1 s! f7 \: @7 e+ e# v; U而且在他的指導下,(他推薦了一些書和文章給中國學生),中國學生的理論水平在進步,是明顯的,他能看到的1 O a, Y& i- l
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這個老師認為,這個學生是很優秀的,因為會一步一步的進步,他認為這是一個想從事科研的人最需要的東西。
1 _2 T. w) ^& L* L2 t: x( Q因為這個老師代過很多學生,他說有的學生來的時候起點很高,本科成績之類的都很好,但是一旦進入穩定期,時間太長,很慢的走出來,尤其是到了博士的後期,需要自己想主意,而且這主意還是可行的時候。
3 N: p3 L. F+ ?' d! |, W6 w) {但這個老師說,也有一些學生,起點是低一些,和那些簡歷看起來非常優秀的人比起來好像差很多,但是他們的進步很均勻,每天都進步一點點,不斷持續,這樣積累起來就很多了。
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這個老師當時給我的意見時,踏踏實實地做好,不要想那些還不存在的問題,關鍵是把現在做好。每一個台階都走好了,未來自然也會好。
& b. _" m9 u6 u+ @/ @他還說。老老實實的至少在這裡呆兩年,先不要想到那裡念博士的問題,這兩年好好學習,每天都有一點進步,就會是很大的收穫了。
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3 T5 L/ l$ P* M7 ?% I5 U/ Q我當時和他開玩笑,問他如果我想轉到他的實驗室,他會要我嗎?, ^0 v( _4 m; U) A
呵呵,他說,不會,因為我的研究資歷太淺了,如果想搞科研,光成績好是沒用的,但是他說,如果我兩年的積累很好,他會考慮的。 T. i+ Q- S: z4 r ?
我有點不服氣,問他,那麼他要的那個中國學生也沒有研究經歷,為什麼他要了那個中國學生
$ Q3 t1 f0 s# s/ |2 S- N5 |- n他笑了,說, 那個中國學生在大學的時候就表現出了對科研的興趣,而不是像我一樣,只是為了出國才想出國的,因為他和那個學生電話聊天了幾次,每次他們都談很多泛泛的話 題,似乎和課本或者他們的項目有關但是似乎又沒有關係的話題,那個學生表現出了對自然科學極深的基礎,雖然那個學生的成績並不好。
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所以他總結了一句話給我,他說,你還不愛你現在從事的事情,至少不投入,如果我沒有說錯的話,你甚至還沒有投入的作過一次實驗。
0 C$ j; V- D% {/ b" m9 ]* t% O/ ^他說,他想要的是一個可以將來成為科學家的人。
+ N0 Q4 {+ w; ^5 M他問我,你想成為科學家嗎?
0 P+ [" h% G& z0 f" c9 b我說,確實不想。( b Q9 T- d9 p4 A: ^0 o
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3 n8 ]3 s' T7 D+ P那些真的很想搞基礎研究的人,你們從小積累的東西,早晚會有用的。即使一些想法也好。
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如果老外給你去信,希望你的英語不要和你的申請材料裡表現出來的相差太多才好。遇到這麼開明的老闆,不是很容易的事情。老外,其實很多都沒有到過中國,或 者對中國的瞭解還不是很多,他們時常是通過他們身邊的中國人或者學生來判斷的,如果帶了一個好學生,他們就會認為所有的中國學生都挺好的;如果帶了一個不 好的學生,就會認為中國學生都不好。
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讓你的材料,因為某些東西亮點起來,這是吸引目光的最好說明。
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1 ?, W+ z7 M! Q* ~$ n/ d如果你已經在國外了,有機會接觸那些牛人們,就好好接觸一下吧。很多牛人是很友好的,很像長輩。如果投緣,也許他還可以幫你指點一下呢!(也算是一個吸收西方精華的過程吧)
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' q h) [# ~0 [4 _1 f5 F想申請牛校,或者申請牛實驗室,或者牛人的同志們,不要耍詐,牛人的眼睛還是雪亮的,我們這點道行,不太容易把他們蒙過去。還是小心點好。
d1 y+ Y r2 t8 j. a; [ 這個老師是加拿大排名前三的學校的終身教授,現在很牛,請他開會都要提前預約,否則日程就都滿了,有nature的文章。現在的實驗室上上下下加一起,20多人呢8 A/ u( q4 }/ [2 h) ~
2 f; a/ C5 h. D- D
他今年收了一個中國學生,國內2流學校(我認為的),托夫607,作文5.0,gre1900,本科成績大概85吧,本科期間參加了科研小組(可能是這個 詞),3年級的時候作為交訪學生在日本呆了半年(日本的這個學校排名很好)。所以有一封日本教授的推薦信,評價是思維非常活躍,見解獨到,但是有時候感覺 基礎知識有些不紮實,但是很有潛力。
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/ r( L( u2 v' B$ _& u這個老師和我們座談的時候說,他對這個學生感興趣是因為,他日本教授的推薦信,尤其是日本教授的用詞,意思是雖然還有很多不足,但是個很有潛力而且願意付出工夫的學生。9 O# O7 I. \6 _) j3 d E# e$ a1 U2 Z
這個老師說,他不在乎他的學生是否成績顯赫,是否是中國名校畢業,因為他認為中國的教育水平相比於國際還是有差距的,他希望的學生是有良好思維習慣的,而且肯吃苦。因為他說,搞科研,有時候需要吃苦和活躍。# P+ u1 _: g4 p% J" X( B1 L; Z: l6 m
" |! c: v8 Z& F( B) A之後這個老師與這個學生進行了通信,雖然他感覺到一些不足,但是總體來說,他還比較滿意,所以他最後同意接受了他,而且願意付他的學費和生活費) ], g5 c [. J6 M% j7 z
這個老師對我們說,他覺得不足的地方時,當他和這個中國學生通信的時候,他明顯的感覺到,這個中國學生的通信是使用的英語沒有他的學習計劃之類的表現得那 麼好。不過因為這個老師以前代過一些中國學生,所以他表示理解,他知道中國學生的學習計劃和某些中國教授寫的推薦信很多都是一個樣本寫出來的,經過特別的 推敲,所以表現得比較好;但經常的通信,他們無法每封信都仔細的推敲,所以就體現出了真實的英語水平。, ~3 ^' `' W4 e6 v2 m2 R
但這個老師說,他不在乎英語水平究竟有多差或者多好,因為他根本不相信英語成績,因為他認為即使是中國英語學院畢業的學生,出了國英語一樣聽不懂。但他想看的是潛力。/ ?4 V4 C( [2 i8 M) ^
% J% k, D, I* U3 j7 c他和這個學生通信了將近半年,幾乎每星期一封信,他自己說,像父母和孩子的通信。& B' o+ C @4 Y% s/ D
在這半年裡,他發現中國學生的英語明顯在進步
1 s! f7 \: @7 e+ e# v; U而且在他的指導下,(他推薦了一些書和文章給中國學生),中國學生的理論水平在進步,是明顯的,他能看到的1 O a, Y& i- l
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這個老師認為,這個學生是很優秀的,因為會一步一步的進步,他認為這是一個想從事科研的人最需要的東西。
1 _2 T. w) ^& L* L2 t: x( Q因為這個老師代過很多學生,他說有的學生來的時候起點很高,本科成績之類的都很好,但是一旦進入穩定期,時間太長,很慢的走出來,尤其是到了博士的後期,需要自己想主意,而且這主意還是可行的時候。
3 N: p3 L. F+ ?' d! |, W6 w) {但這個老師說,也有一些學生,起點是低一些,和那些簡歷看起來非常優秀的人比起來好像差很多,但是他們的進步很均勻,每天都進步一點點,不斷持續,這樣積累起來就很多了。
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5 z) v1 ^" A" U, K$ s而且他很喜歡這個中國學生,還有一個原因,是他的誠實。他坦誠的承認了自己英語不是特別的好,但是他自己說,他會一步步進步。這個學生確實做到了' r& O- E5 D8 I9 i) o! c
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這個老師當時給我的意見時,踏踏實實地做好,不要想那些還不存在的問題,關鍵是把現在做好。每一個台階都走好了,未來自然也會好。
& b. _" m9 u6 u+ @/ @他還說。老老實實的至少在這裡呆兩年,先不要想到那裡念博士的問題,這兩年好好學習,每天都有一點進步,就會是很大的收穫了。
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3 T5 L/ l$ P* M7 ?% I5 U/ Q我當時和他開玩笑,問他如果我想轉到他的實驗室,他會要我嗎?, ^0 v( _4 m; U) A
呵呵,他說,不會,因為我的研究資歷太淺了,如果想搞科研,光成績好是沒用的,但是他說,如果我兩年的積累很好,他會考慮的。 T. i+ Q- S: z4 r ?
我有點不服氣,問他,那麼他要的那個中國學生也沒有研究經歷,為什麼他要了那個中國學生
$ Q3 t1 f0 s# s/ |2 S- N5 |- n他笑了,說, 那個中國學生在大學的時候就表現出了對科研的興趣,而不是像我一樣,只是為了出國才想出國的,因為他和那個學生電話聊天了幾次,每次他們都談很多泛泛的話 題,似乎和課本或者他們的項目有關但是似乎又沒有關係的話題,那個學生表現出了對自然科學極深的基礎,雖然那個學生的成績並不好。
1 x! Q' _# [ }; L' m他說,至少他從和我的聊天中,沒有感覺到這種感覺,$ U4 m4 `3 q( V
所以他總結了一句話給我,他說,你還不愛你現在從事的事情,至少不投入,如果我沒有說錯的話,你甚至還沒有投入的作過一次實驗。
0 C$ j; V- D% {/ b" m9 ]* t% O/ ^他說,他想要的是一個可以將來成為科學家的人。
+ N0 Q4 {+ w; ^5 M他問我,你想成為科學家嗎?
0 P+ [" h% G& z0 f" c9 b我說,確實不想。( b Q9 T- d9 p4 A: ^0 o
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3 n8 ]3 s' T7 D+ P那些真的很想搞基礎研究的人,你們從小積累的東西,早晚會有用的。即使一些想法也好。
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如果老外給你去信,希望你的英語不要和你的申請材料裡表現出來的相差太多才好。遇到這麼開明的老闆,不是很容易的事情。老外,其實很多都沒有到過中國,或 者對中國的瞭解還不是很多,他們時常是通過他們身邊的中國人或者學生來判斷的,如果帶了一個好學生,他們就會認為所有的中國學生都挺好的;如果帶了一個不 好的學生,就會認為中國學生都不好。
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讓你的材料,因為某些東西亮點起來,這是吸引目光的最好說明。
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1 ?, W+ z7 M! Q* ~$ n/ d如果你已經在國外了,有機會接觸那些牛人們,就好好接觸一下吧。很多牛人是很友好的,很像長輩。如果投緣,也許他還可以幫你指點一下呢!(也算是一個吸收西方精華的過程吧)
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' q h) [# ~0 [4 _1 f5 F想申請牛校,或者申請牛實驗室,或者牛人的同志們,不要耍詐,牛人的眼睛還是雪亮的,我們這點道行,不太容易把他們蒙過去。還是小心點好。
關於教授招學生—國外留學生經驗與想法 part3
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呵呵,既然大家喜歡,就再寫一個例子吧: e/ ~- u Y$ P2 b5 k& U- `7 F
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我在加拿大已經呆了半年多了,直到現在自己還沒有想清楚自己是否出來的值得,也許大家可以把我的例子作為一個例子看一下,哈哈(我已經把自己的事情都講出來了,就是為了鼓勵大家趕緊發帖子,把自己的申請經驗或者在國外的經驗寫出來啊!!大家可得多多捧場啊!): P4 y, a- @9 _* W* O; J6 e
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0 h& T% l+ S6 a8 ^我是國內一個應該算是二流學校(雖然我的學校自己總認為自己挺好的)的臨床專業本科畢業,保送的研究生,只念了一年,就出來了。
) T5 w+ i. t# ]1 }$ H- X: y9 | `因為感情的原因,所以當時只是想出來,只要出來就行,所以只申請了一所學校(應該是加拿大中游或者中下游的學校把)。因為我媽媽的好朋友的孩子曾經在這裡讀書,她說這裡是個養傷的好地方,而且她可以幫我先聯繫一下老師% U3 ?' y! R2 o& o* I
5 M& }1 }9 H( P* x d) ^我當時的情況是,托夫已經考完了,成績還不錯吧,640,TWE5。0。不打算考GRE,因為我只想趕緊走。考這個,還需要一段時間,尤其是我還沒有開始複習
0 F4 r; [# W+ @" l. ?- q7 }- e我的本科成績非常好,平均分90以上,而且得的獎也不少(這些都讓我的學校開獲獎證明了),又一篇綜述發表(中文雜誌,不過沒什麼用)。而且我的三個推薦人都很好,而且和我的關係都非常好,基本都是他們自己寫的推薦信,根本沒用我寫。1 z: ^! y& Z1 {0 y( e4 o! w1 k2 }
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所以在這樣的情況下,我就只申請了那一個學校。因為當時我媽媽朋友的孩子幫我聯繫到一個老師,他願意看看我的情況,然後看是否可以收我。
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K1 h7 h- k' c# c# L0 N2 j 我先給這個老師寫了一封信。& S3 {' W3 g$ P5 b* Y2 x
這個老師回信說,想看我的簡歷和成績。於是我把簡歷和成績給他發信過去。(我確認我的簡歷和成績是非常好的)
- m+ Q1 I k" w( @果然,這個老師回信說,我可以正式申請了,他覺得我的條件很好
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% V* h- V8 F% H! J( q之後,這個老師果然接受了我,而且我也競爭到了學校的獎學金。所以我的老師很高興。- c1 Y6 V3 u! t6 R" Y$ H1 w
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之後,我就來到了這裡。0 F% Y3 H4 S" a8 G" L) \
# \5 q5 u* n2 N因為我是為了逃避感情才到的這裡,所以我來到這裡並沒有覺得什麼不好。(雖然我的很多同學和朋友,都勸我,申請加拿大更好的學校或者去美國。因為他們認為,我的條件,應該不是什麼問題,如果再考一個GRE的話)5 |2 V7 E8 R: T; I' T, ^' u
" D5 S3 A0 o5 T' } _9 l但是感情的逃避終歸有一天會結束的,因為不管再熱烈的愛情,也終有一天會變成涓流,直到最後終於忘記+ Z2 ]/ j% X9 o, s
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我的很多朋友打電話,讓我轉校,或者重新申請。還有一個朋友說,她可以直接幫我在他的美國的學校找導師,然後讓我轉到美國去上學。因為他們認為我現在在的加拿大學校實在太沒有名氣了。% Q/ L+ \# h, ]) G; ~/ [" [2 f
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: J* ?2 N8 W+ c2 k因為,我現在的導師對我很好,雖然這個學校不是很有名,但是我的導師很好,所以我根本不好意思跟他說,我想去別的學校. F- t: \! M/ \ A& R1 c
另外,我現在發現,小實驗室的好處是,老闆可以親自教你技術,而且每天都能見到,可以隨時和他討論問題。這是大試驗是無法做到的。尤其對我一個沒有搞過研究的人來說,這可以算是個過渡期。1 X$ U' i8 z/ N9 e6 z& u" o
而且,因為我出國太匆忙,根本沒有什麼目標,所以這個學校相對輕鬆的環境,可以讓我思考一下,自己將來究竟怎麼辦?是就搞研究了,還是想想要不要考醫生(因為我的年齡還比較小),還是怎麼樣的?0 \; E% n& A2 M+ f9 |* t) v+ \ r
還有一個原因,就是我現在用的技術比較特殊,很多人要學一年多才能很好地掌握,現在我的老師可以親自教我,而且這裡壓力的不是那麼大,可以讓我有時間好好的學習。
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不過我的朋友們不這樣認為。) n! d/ `- M: h+ y3 ?
他們認為,大的學校,大的實驗室,大的壓力,在短的時間內,可以讓你發更多的文章,而且由於學業的繁忙,感情的恢復也會更快一些5 C5 j) C- j7 v/ q
他們認為,博士的地方很重要,有名的學校,將來找工作也好找。否則,找工作的時候人家都沒聽說過你學校的名字
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/ z. a5 H8 [2 W+ K4 n# ?呵呵,所以我在我的想法和我朋友們的想法中徘徊呢!* A8 X2 d+ p: O: ~* ]: n! @
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$ e) Y1 s+ S% A% X* ]7 U3 D# b我的意見:
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% i* K7 Z5 }5 H4 w k. [3 ~. q) X出國,不是兒戲,不要像我一樣,匆匆的選擇出國,甚至不給自己任何的選擇。否則,真的到了國外,你會後悔的。
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Z9 N( b+ T: w2 u; z- ^ 國外的教育體制和中國確實 不同。我出來了,覺得,年輕的時候出來看看還是有好處的(前提是你不是一個很想當大官的人)。給你一個假設,如果我沒有出國,按照我以前在國內的表現,畢 業留校,如果再會拍馬一點的話,5年主治,3年副教授,在表現好點估計30多歲就可以當教授了,如果再會拍馬一點,可能30多歲就當主任了呢。但是如果選 擇了出國,即使你的選擇是正確的,你也很努力了,在加拿大讀個博士,估計至少得5年吧,然後博士後,比較順的話也得4年吧,然後找個職位先是助理教授得5 年,如果幹得好,才能生副教授,幹得再好,5年在生教授。估計也得40多歲了吧。
% u. \- W8 r/ x2 G& \' j; r& H" S5 o4 ?所以想享福的人,還是現在中國呆著吧,等開了公司,或者當了領導,或者掙錢了,出國旅遊就可以了,一樣可以看到美色,而且看得還比我們這些留學生多。' m% {) O7 {' B% [' A7 {' X
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+ [. Z# j. p2 K% Z' D; d+ i6 @我老師說,他 當時要我,是因為我的成績太好了。我問我的導師,如果我的成績不是特別好,但是有研究經驗,他會不會要我的時候;我老師說,如果能碰到那種正好是做我們這 個的,他肯定會要的,即使那個人成績不好,因為訓練技術都要一年左右的時間,如果是個會用這個技術的人,至少能省一年的時間
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呵呵,既然大家喜歡,就再寫一個例子吧: e/ ~- u Y$ P2 b5 k& U- `7 F
- l0 }( l+ ^1 j: Y) ]) J' H第三個例子:我自己
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我在加拿大已經呆了半年多了,直到現在自己還沒有想清楚自己是否出來的值得,也許大家可以把我的例子作為一個例子看一下,哈哈(我已經把自己的事情都講出來了,就是為了鼓勵大家趕緊發帖子,把自己的申請經驗或者在國外的經驗寫出來啊!!大家可得多多捧場啊!): P4 y, a- @9 _* W* O; J6 e
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0 h& T% l+ S6 a8 ^我是國內一個應該算是二流學校(雖然我的學校自己總認為自己挺好的)的臨床專業本科畢業,保送的研究生,只念了一年,就出來了。
) T5 w+ i. t# ]1 }$ H- X: y9 | `因為感情的原因,所以當時只是想出來,只要出來就行,所以只申請了一所學校(應該是加拿大中游或者中下游的學校把)。因為我媽媽的好朋友的孩子曾經在這裡讀書,她說這裡是個養傷的好地方,而且她可以幫我先聯繫一下老師% U3 ?' y! R2 o& o* I
5 M& }1 }9 H( P* x d) ^我當時的情況是,托夫已經考完了,成績還不錯吧,640,TWE5。0。不打算考GRE,因為我只想趕緊走。考這個,還需要一段時間,尤其是我還沒有開始複習
0 F4 r; [# W+ @" l. ?- q7 }- e我的本科成績非常好,平均分90以上,而且得的獎也不少(這些都讓我的學校開獲獎證明了),又一篇綜述發表(中文雜誌,不過沒什麼用)。而且我的三個推薦人都很好,而且和我的關係都非常好,基本都是他們自己寫的推薦信,根本沒用我寫。1 z: ^! y& Z1 {0 y( e4 o! w1 k2 }
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所以在這樣的情況下,我就只申請了那一個學校。因為當時我媽媽朋友的孩子幫我聯繫到一個老師,他願意看看我的情況,然後看是否可以收我。
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K1 h7 h- k' c# c# L0 N2 j 我先給這個老師寫了一封信。& S3 {' W3 g$ P5 b* Y2 x
這個老師回信說,想看我的簡歷和成績。於是我把簡歷和成績給他發信過去。(我確認我的簡歷和成績是非常好的)
- m+ Q1 I k" w( @果然,這個老師回信說,我可以正式申請了,他覺得我的條件很好
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% V* h- V8 F% H! J( q之後,這個老師果然接受了我,而且我也競爭到了學校的獎學金。所以我的老師很高興。- c1 Y6 V3 u! t6 R" Y$ H1 w
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之後,我就來到了這裡。0 F% Y3 H4 S" a8 G" L) \
# \5 q5 u* n2 N因為我是為了逃避感情才到的這裡,所以我來到這裡並沒有覺得什麼不好。(雖然我的很多同學和朋友,都勸我,申請加拿大更好的學校或者去美國。因為他們認為,我的條件,應該不是什麼問題,如果再考一個GRE的話)5 |2 V7 E8 R: T; I' T, ^' u
" D5 S3 A0 o5 T' } _9 l但是感情的逃避終歸有一天會結束的,因為不管再熱烈的愛情,也終有一天會變成涓流,直到最後終於忘記+ Z2 ]/ j% X9 o, s
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我的很多朋友打電話,讓我轉校,或者重新申請。還有一個朋友說,她可以直接幫我在他的美國的學校找導師,然後讓我轉到美國去上學。因為他們認為我現在在的加拿大學校實在太沒有名氣了。% Q/ L+ \# h, ]) G; ~/ [" [2 f
/ c& Z" G0 S7 t5 C不過我拒絕了。- [9 u7 r+ v% l! D, c
: J* ?2 N8 W+ c2 k因為,我現在的導師對我很好,雖然這個學校不是很有名,但是我的導師很好,所以我根本不好意思跟他說,我想去別的學校. F- t: \! M/ \ A& R1 c
另外,我現在發現,小實驗室的好處是,老闆可以親自教你技術,而且每天都能見到,可以隨時和他討論問題。這是大試驗是無法做到的。尤其對我一個沒有搞過研究的人來說,這可以算是個過渡期。1 X$ U' i8 z/ N9 e6 z& u" o
而且,因為我出國太匆忙,根本沒有什麼目標,所以這個學校相對輕鬆的環境,可以讓我思考一下,自己將來究竟怎麼辦?是就搞研究了,還是想想要不要考醫生(因為我的年齡還比較小),還是怎麼樣的?0 \; E% n& A2 M+ f9 |* t) v+ \ r
還有一個原因,就是我現在用的技術比較特殊,很多人要學一年多才能很好地掌握,現在我的老師可以親自教我,而且這裡壓力的不是那麼大,可以讓我有時間好好的學習。
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不過我的朋友們不這樣認為。) n! d/ `- M: h+ y3 ?
他們認為,大的學校,大的實驗室,大的壓力,在短的時間內,可以讓你發更多的文章,而且由於學業的繁忙,感情的恢復也會更快一些5 C5 j) C- j7 v/ q
他們認為,博士的地方很重要,有名的學校,將來找工作也好找。否則,找工作的時候人家都沒聽說過你學校的名字
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/ z. a5 H8 [2 W+ K4 n# ?呵呵,所以我在我的想法和我朋友們的想法中徘徊呢!* A8 X2 d+ p: O: ~* ]: n! @
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也願意聽聽你們的看法
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$ e) Y1 s+ S% A% X* ]7 U3 D# b我的意見:
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% i* K7 Z5 }5 H4 w k. [3 ~. q) X出國,不是兒戲,不要像我一樣,匆匆的選擇出國,甚至不給自己任何的選擇。否則,真的到了國外,你會後悔的。
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Z9 N( b+ T: w2 u; z- ^ 國外的教育體制和中國確實 不同。我出來了,覺得,年輕的時候出來看看還是有好處的(前提是你不是一個很想當大官的人)。給你一個假設,如果我沒有出國,按照我以前在國內的表現,畢 業留校,如果再會拍馬一點的話,5年主治,3年副教授,在表現好點估計30多歲就可以當教授了,如果再會拍馬一點,可能30多歲就當主任了呢。但是如果選 擇了出國,即使你的選擇是正確的,你也很努力了,在加拿大讀個博士,估計至少得5年吧,然後博士後,比較順的話也得4年吧,然後找個職位先是助理教授得5 年,如果幹得好,才能生副教授,幹得再好,5年在生教授。估計也得40多歲了吧。
% u. \- W8 r/ x2 G& \' j; r& H" S5 o4 ?所以想享福的人,還是現在中國呆著吧,等開了公司,或者當了領導,或者掙錢了,出國旅遊就可以了,一樣可以看到美色,而且看得還比我們這些留學生多。' m% {) O7 {' B% [' A7 {' X
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+ [. Z# j. p2 K% Z' D; d+ i6 @我老師說,他 當時要我,是因為我的成績太好了。我問我的導師,如果我的成績不是特別好,但是有研究經驗,他會不會要我的時候;我老師說,如果能碰到那種正好是做我們這 個的,他肯定會要的,即使那個人成績不好,因為訓練技術都要一年左右的時間,如果是個會用這個技術的人,至少能省一年的時間
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